the welsh assembly

annie before we do... write what down
shawn like whatever we say
annie you want your food?
shawn im good for now
annie hey you took this off
shawn yeah
annie ok whats your question
shawn so uh tell me what you thought were like well anything good james said
annie like uh beck and prince... well i mean... from what i got out of that, when he was talkin about price, was what he meant about pop music was popular music, like how grunge music was popular music in the 90s but its not considered pop music
shawn yeah. what else
anita well different cities he was talkin about are mainly i guess out of our price range, i dont think he understood that we're coming from a different standpoint like, telling me that i should get a job, and that i think that with the job thing that i quit the job just so we could do more music and we havent done more music, and its... it uh sucks. its rediculous. i quit my job before i went on that stupid trip and yet we still havent fuckin played any gigs.
shawn yeah and i think that that sucks
annie uh huh
shawn because we're like writing material we dont really need to rehearse it much
annie yeah
shawn its simple. and he was talkin bout how or music needs to be more structured
annie all i could thikn of when he said that was dude all the songs i write are structured all the songs we play are structured, the only time we improv are when we jam on stage
shawn the thing is man the only time we jam is when we're at the piano bar
anita so thats why james sees us as all we do is jam we shoulda come up with something tonight, not that we didnt have reason to before, but come up with shit that would blow his mind, like uh, maybe we should dress up or something, something that would make him go, woah whats wrong with these people tonight. i dont like the fact that he was like you guys need alot of work. you need to work on your craft. like what the fuck. i mean i can see what he meant when he said you need to work on the act, because thats when people see us. they look at how we look act they listen they pay attention if we care. james was right that you dont know who could be walking into the bar, someone who can book a gig. ive ran into one of those. you dont know what to expect
shawn i think he's full of bullshit.
anita why
shawn well i mean i see no evidence why i should take anything he says for anything beyond just hearsay because like i have no idea what he's done i've seen his music and it sucks its not my style i'd never play it or pay for it so i mean he worked in churches we're not tryin to work in churchs. we're tryin to get gets in fronta kids we're makin music for people in their 20s or even teens
anita not in their 60s
shawn and like its crazy because the dude was so adamant that we change our music because he thought that i wasnt being realistic saying that i thought we have some pop elements in our music. i think he's not being realistic if he's trying to cage himself in the styles that he's accustomed to but i mean bottom line is he's not someone who plays our music if we were jazz musicians he might be but at the end of teh day he's probably only about as useful as preston.
anita well he makes good points, one that i can remember, the performance act thing.
shawn i just dont think much of what he says really strikes me as something amazing. but i think that uh, there are some things that he did say that did make a bit of sense, like structure, basically the point being, song song song, or whatever, but you know that ive never liked james or sky, even from the beginning,
anita yeah why
shawn well theyre not my types of people
anita are they too jolly for you, cause they come off as really happy people. well maybe youre depressed and they wanna show everybody that they're happy
shawn maybe, but i mean, they just seem like they think they know lots of shit, but they dont, and like, you can talk with em, and for like all they say, there's like not much good in their words. if you went and did everything they suggested, i feel like you'd probably be worse off than better off
anita but some of the things that they do say are helpful, i mean, how expensive other cities can be, like i mean we were thinking of a couple of cities, and its nice to know that its costy, so even if we do go there we kinda know what to expect
shawn i think they're full of shit,
anita me or them
shawn not both, them, when it comes to fucking prices of cities? i used to live in chicago. ive traveled to like many of these places. you just have to know where to go to get the cheap shit. so its really not like you cant live, unless youre talking about new york city
anita what do you think about thewhole stay at a friends house for a week in new york just to see if we like it
shawn i mean we can do that but i mean ive been to new york many times i dont think id see anything new i kinda know what im getting into
anita so is it a good or bad situation if we go to new york
shawn its a bad one for cars because you cant drive to venues and shit because there's no parking you'd be parking like two or three blocks away
annie but i mean you have subways you could get a taxi
shawn dude you cant afford taxies every night
annie oh hehe true. i didnt think abotu that. taxis cost money. money = shit
shawn but uh its not just money its alotta money like 50 bucks but the subway is cheap like couple coins so we could take the subway but the subway doesnt go everywhere. i mean we could spend some time in new york and try to get around using the subway and stuff. but new york has a shitload of places to play in. and new york is supposed to be the center of america
annie what do you mean by that like the heart of america maybe
shawn no i mean like the center of america like the center of all the businesses
anita oh ok
shawn and also the place where most bands play
anita mmhmm, and become something that people listen to, well not everybody but you know what i mean
shawn there's alot of bands that comes from new york
anita mmhmm
shawn but uh i dont think uh, all good bands come from new york, they come from all over america
anita well yeah. some ofem come from different countries too
shawn you know what he was sayin though
annie who james
shawn yeah he was sayin that uh, find your... niche...
annie find your what
shawn find your niche, your group of people that like you
annie well i would say its not here in columbus. andi dont believehim when he says all open mics are just acoustic guitar and singing folk music.
shawn look at his own open mic
annie exactly
shawn but i did read somewhere that open mics were like a fad that started all of em used to be guitar places
annie so theyre just mainly guitar and uh vocal
shawn well i guess its like 20 30 years ago
annie thats awhile though things've changed music's changed
shawn yeah and like uh, musics bigger than its ever been
annie yeah so its even harder for people to actually go somewhere in music
shawn i would say its even easier
annie how is it easier
shawn there's more venues everywhere, there's more people who listen to music
annie mmhmm ok, but there's also musicians
shawn yeah but the whole system can handle more musicians than back in the day. i think part of the problem is, the group of shit that we're trying to get involved in
annie uh huh
shawn is like, basically something that james has never been involved with
annie so thats probably why he's like hold off one verything you need to do what i think is right see if you like each other wheres the vibe
shawn i mean he's not off base we do need ot make sure the bands working
annie well yeah
shawn but i think it is working and i dont think we need more reassurance
annie he thinks it isnt thats why he was telling us that basically we needa get our shit together and basically see if we even like playing music together.
shawn well remember we'vebeen jamming alot when we play there. remember we told ourselves we did a bad job last time. we're giving them the wrong impression. and thats comin from jammin with people. we probably spent more time last week jammin that we did playin our songs
annie and we shouldnt play music for long periods of time, especially open mics, because i think last time we stayed for six hours
shawn yeah we shouldnt be there for too long. and if we're there we should just be listening. we shouldn't keep going up
annie we'll go up listen to everybody else and we're out
shawn but it's ok i mean we did pretty shitty the last couple times but if we do a good job today then we can change some peoples opinions